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Surname: CARR

Forename(s): John

Place of Birth: Dalehead (Slaidburn), Yorkshire

Service No: 26558

Rank: Private

Regiment / Corps / Service: Grenadier Guards

Battalion / Unit: 1st Battalion

Division: Guards Division

Age: 32

Date of Death: 1917-10-14

Awards: ---

CWGC Grave / Memorial Reference: IX. I. 18.

CWGC Cemetery: DOZINGHEM MILITARY CEMETERY

CWGC Memorial: ---

Non-CWGC Burial: ---

Local War Memorial: DALEHEAD, YORKSHIRE

Local War Memorial: DUNSOP BRIDGE, YORKSHIRE

Local War Memorial: SLAIDBURN, YORKSHIRE

Local War Memorial: WHITEWELL, YORKSHIRE

Additional Information:

John Carr was the son of William and Elizabeth Ann Carr, née Robinson and brother of Private William Carr (242841) (q.v.). William, senior, was born at Whitendale near Dunsop Bridge and Elizabeth at Dalehead, Yorkshire.

1891 Dalehead, Yorkshire Census: Fair Hill - John Carr, aged 5 years, born Dalehead, son of William and Eliz. Ann Carr.

1901 Dalehead, Yorkshire Census: Fair Hill - John Carr, aged 15 years, born Dalehead, son of William and Elizabeth Ann Carr. [Private James Parker (32179) (q.v.) later lived at Fair Hill.]

1911 Dalehead, Yorkshire Census: White Hill House - John Carr, aged 25 years, born Dalehead, son of William and Elizabeth Ann Carr.

John was married to Ethel Clapham in 1912. In 1911, Ethel, who was born at Wigan, Lancashire, was employed by Robert Parker (farmer) as a domestic servant at Colleyholme, Dalehead.

British Army WW1 Medal Rolls Index Cards: Pte John Carr, 26558, G. Gds.

British Army WW1 Medal and Award Rolls: Gdsn John Carr, 26558, 1 G. Gds.

Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects: Pte John Carr, 26558, 1st Bn Gren. Gds. Date and Place of Death: 14.10.17. 61st C.C.St. To whom Authorised/Amount Authorised: Widow and Sole Legatee - Ethel. £8 4s. 6d.

UK, WW1 Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923: card(s) exist for John. Name(s) on card(s): Widow: Ethel, born 13.9.88. Address 1. Beatrice Cottage, Dunsop Bridge, Clitheroe, Lancs. Address 2. Wood End, Dunsop Bridge, Clitheroe. Address 3. 44, Warrington Road, Abram near Wigan.

A short biography of John is included in: ‘In Love, In Gratitude, In Remembrance – Remembering the Men & Women of Slaidburn, Newton in Bowland, Dunsop Bridge, Dale Head & Tosside’ by Margaret Brenchley (2018).

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Private John CARR

Private John CARR

Regiment / Corps / Service Badge: Grenadier Guards

Regiment / Corps / Service Badge: Grenadier Guards

Divisional Sign / Service Insignia: Guards Division

Divisional Sign / Service Insignia: Guards Division

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Surname: CARR

Forename(s): John

Born: Daleshead, York

Residence:

Enlisted: Aitheroe

Number: 26558

Rank: Gdsn

Regiment: Grenadier Guards

Battalion: 1st Battalion

Decorations:

Died Date: 14/10/17

Died How: Died of wounds

Theatre of War: France & Flanders

Notes:

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Surname: CARR

Forename(s): J

Country of Service: United Kingdom

Service Number: 26558

Rank: Private

Regiment: Grenadier Guards

Unit: 1st Bn.

Age:

Awards:

Died Date: 14/10/1917

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'Clitheroe Advertiser' (9 November 1917)

(Kindly supplied by Shirley Penman of Clitheroe and Dorothy Falshaw of Gisburn)

DOUBLE BEREAVEMENTS

Two sons killed within a month is a terrible experience which has befallen Mrs. Bullock, who lives at Waddington Almshouses. On October 4th, her third son, Private T.E. Bullock, Sherwood Foresters, met his death in action and, yesterday morning, Mr. J. Bullock, Jubilee-terrace, was officially notified that Private Rainford W. Bullock, the fourth son, made the great sacrifice on Oct. 26. He joined the Loyal North Lancashire Regt. in October, 1916, and was sent to France last January. He was 33 years of age, and worked for Messrs. Carter's cement works. Prior to entering the employ of Messrs. Carters, however, he was in the service of Mr. Sam Berry, Mearley. He was unmarried. Another son, Private Edgar Bullock, is at present in hospital in Mesopotamia suffering from malarial fever, and general sympathy will go out to the grief-stricken mother and family.

A further double bereavement is reported from Dalehead, Mr. Carr having lost another son in action on the 24th ulto. It was only last week that we published the photograph of his son, John, of the Grenadier Guards, who died on October 14th.

'Clitheroe Advertiser' (16 November 1917)

(Kindly supplied by Shirley Penman of Clitheroe and Dorothy Falshaw of Gisburn)

DALEHEAD PARENTS' DOUBLE LOSS

Grief, dire and overwhelming, has descended upon White Hill House, Dalehead, the home of Mr. and Mrs. Carr who, within the short space of a fortnight, have received news that two sons have given their lives in the service of their country. On November 2nd, we published a photograph of Private John Carr, Grenadier Guards, who made the supreme sacrifice on October 14th. The following day, official news reached the grief-stricken home to the effect that the youngest son, Private William Carr, York and Lancaster Regt., had been killed. Subsequently the doubly-bereaved parents received the following letter from Sec.-Lieutenant F.E. Allen:

"I am writing to offer deepest sympathy of officers and men of D Company to you and the relations of Private Wm Carr, who was killed by a shell whilst going into the trenches on the 24th October. His death was instantaneous, and we have lost a good soldier and a brave lad."

Private Carr was 22 years of age and formerly assisted his parents on the farm. He was absorbed into the Army on September 13th, 1916 and reached France on December 29th following. A bright and likeable youth, his death, coming so soon after that of his brother, has prostrated the parents to whom general sympathy has been shown. Mr. and Mrs. Carr have offered three sons on the altar of patriotism and the whereabouts of the third, Sapper H. Carr, R.E., are not known, although it is believed that he is at Salonika.

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The Carr family in 1909

The Carr family in 1909

- (taken at Fair Hill Farm, Dalehead, on Sunday after Stocks sports day on the Saturday; the last time all were together): back row (l-r) - Ruth (b. 1887), Jane (b. 1893), Thomas (b. 1897), Eunice (b. 1881), John (b. 1885), Isobel (b. 1882), Heber (b. 1883), Bridget Ellen (b. 1888), Allan (b. 1891), Elizabeth (b. 1889); middle row (l-r) - Mary (b. 1878), William (1854-1936), Elizabeth Ann (née Robinson) (1856-1930), Harry (b. 1879); front row (l-r) - William (b. 1895), Lois (b. 1901)

Courtesy of Mrs Bessie Harrison, Colne, and Brenda Kay, Clitheroe

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09 November 1917

CARR - October 14th 1917, died in hospital in France from wounds received in action, Pte. John Carr, Grenadier Guards, son of Mr. and Mrs. Carr, White Hill House, Dalehead, aged 32 years.

09 November 1917

DALE HEAD - SECOND BEREAVEMENT IN THREE WEEKS

The sad news was received by Mr. and Mrs. Carr, Whitehill House, on November 1st of the death of their son, Private William Carr, York and Lancs., B.E.F. Pte. Carr was killed in action between the 16th and 28th of October. He was the youngest son of Mr. and Mrs. Carr, of Whitehill House, Dalehead, 22 years of age, and well known and highly respected. Before being called up he was employed by his father at Whitehill House. He was called up in September 1916, and went out to France on December 29th 1916. Much sympathy is extended to Mr. and Mrs. Carr and family in their sad bereavement.

On Tuesday morning, Mrs. Carr received word that her husband, Private John Carr, Grenadier Guards, had died from wounds received during the recent fighting in France. Deceased's parents reside at Whitehill House, Dalehead. Pte. Carr was thirty-two years of age. He was well known and highly esteemed. The widow has received two letters, both dated the 16th October. In one the writer states that Pte. Carr was wounded on the 13th October and adds:- "I am afraid it is serious. He was entering a trench when a sniper shot him through the right arm, the bullet entering his side. My chums and myself bandaged him and carried him to a dressing station so that no time was lost. We all hoped that with God's help he would pull through. I am sorry to have lost such a faithful chum."

The second communication gives the date of death as the 14th from wounds in the chest and abdomen.

"We did everything possible for him but his wounds were very serious, and recovery was almost hopeless from the beginning. He left no message but you will be comforted to hear that his end was peaceful, and that he was unconscious some time before he died."

Before joining up in September 1916, Pte. Carr had worked on the Townley Estate, Whitewell, as a woodman since 1910. A hard and conscientious workman he gained the esteem of all with whom he came in contact. Much sympathy is extended to the widow and parents in the sad bereavement of their loss of two sons in the course of three weeks.

On Sunday a memorial service was held in Dalehead Church for the lads from this parish who have fallen in France. It was conducted by the Vicar, the Rev. T. W. Castle, and there was a large congregation. Suitable hymns were sung. The Vicar preached an impressive sermon from the words:- 'He hath sent me to bind up the broken hearted.' At the close of the service the organist played the Dead March.

18 October 1918

CARR - In loving memory of our dear brothers - Private John Carr, Grenadier Guards, who died of wounds in France, October 14th, 1917, and Private William Carr, York and Lancaster Regiment, killed in action October 18th, 1917.

Fondly we loved them, they are dear to us still,
But in grief we must bend to God's holy will;
Our sorrow is great, our loss hard to bear,
But the angels, dear brothers, will guard you with care.

From Ruth and Robert, Stankas Hall, Newsholme.

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09 November 1917

CARR - Oct. 14th, in France, Pte. John Carr, Grenadier Guards, husband of Mrs. Carr, of Dalehead, aged 32.

09 November 1917

DALEHEAD SOLDIERS KILLED

The sad news was received by Mr. and Mrs. Carr, of White Hill House, of the death of their son, Pte. Wm. Carr, of the York and Lancaster Regiment. Pte. Carr was killed in action between the 16th and 28th October. Pte. Wm. Carr was the youngest son of Mr. and Mrs. Carr, of White Hill House, Dalehead, and was 22 years of age. He was well-known and highly respected. Before being called up on Sept. 13th, 1916, he was employed by his father at White Hill House. He went out to France on Dec. 29th last. Much sympathy is extended to Mr. and Mrs. Carr and family in their sad bereavement.

On Tuesday morning Mrs. Carr, of Dalehead, received word that her husband, Pte. John Carr, of the Grenadier Guards, had died from wounds received during the recent fighting in France. Deceased's parents reside at White Hill House, Dalehead. Pte. Carr was 32 years of age. He was well-known and highly esteemed. The widow have received two letters, both dated Oct. 16th. In one of there the writer states that Pte. Carr was wounded on Oct. 13th, and adds:- "I am afraid it is serious. He was entering a trench when a sniper shot him through the right arm, the bullet entering his side. My chums and myself bandaged him and carried him to a dressing station so that no time was lost. We all hope that with God's help he will pull through. I am very sorry to have lost such a faithful chum." The second communication gives the date of death as the 14th, from wounds in the chest and abdomen. "We did everything possible for him (the letter adds), but his wounds were very serious, and recovery was almost hopeless from the beginning. He left no message, but you will be comforted to hear that his end was peaceful, and that he was unconscious some time before he died." Before joining up in September, 1916, Pte. Carr had worked on the Townlev Estate, Whitewell, as a woodman, since 1910. A hard and conscientious workman, he gained the esteem of all with whom he came in contact. Mr. and Mrs. Carr have thus lost two sons in the short space of three weeks. Much sympathy is extended to the widow and parents in their sad bereavement.

On Sunday last a memorial service was held in Dalehead Church for the lads who had fallen in France from the parish. The service was conducted by the vicar, Rev. T. W. Castle. Suitable hymns were sung, including 'O God our help in ages past,' 'For all the Saints,' and 'Jerusalem the golden.' The Vicar preached an impressive sermon from Isaiah, "He hath sent me to bind up the broken-hearted." At the close of the service the organist played the ''Dead march.'

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